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Exotic weapon? would that have been easier to trace? >> a more exotic weapon that was effective would have probably killed more people, so thankfully, you know, the loss of life and certainly don't want to minimize a people that were killed, but if it was a bomb made with higher explosive set in a different place where the sharp nell was going higher, we could have seen a lot more deaths and serious injuries, so i think -- >> uniqueness of this, this is not a unique, the type of structure. >> the more kind of plain jane it is, the more readily available the materials are. the harder it's going...

Killed, but if it was a bomb made with higher explosive set in a different place where the sharp nell was going higher, we could have seen a lot more deaths and serious injuries, so i think -- >> uniqueness of this, this is not a unique, the type of structure. >> the more kind of plain jane it is, the more readily available the materials are. the harder it's going to be to backtrack specifically to where was this pressure cooker or pressure cookers purchased. where was this circuit breaker obtained. the more plain vanilla it is, it makes the search more wider. >> it's really helpful to have yo...

Wolff's new book? it's what everybody in washington has been writing or saying the past year? they say wolff is more dramatic in his writing. be that as it may, it caused a firestorm and i'm wondering with north korea and iran and news out of pakistan, it can be unsettling. what is your take on a new explosive set of relevations coming outing talking about the dysfunction in the trump white house when there is so much on the line across the globe this morning. >> joe, i can give you a simple anecdote what it's been like the past several days. on thursday afternoon, when the revelations of the ...

Heading up joint terrorism task force looking into this, would you have been hoping for a more exotic weapon? would that have been easier to trace? >> a more exotic weapon that was effective would have probably killed more people, so thankfully, you know, the loss of life and certainly don't want to minimize a people that were killed, but if it was a bomb made with higher explosive set in a different place where the sharp nell was going higher, we could have seen a lot more deaths and serious injuries, so i think --