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Daily beast. gordon, it's great to have you here. lifting off where bill just ended, they're getting threatened. the chinese are saying stop what you're doing, the u.s. is saying stop what you've doing. they've imposed sanctions. how do sanctions work in this scenario and can they stop north korea from expanding its nuclear arsenal? >> well, i think sanctions can stop the north koreans, but not these sanction. i mean, these sanctions, for instance, lopped a third off of north korea's export being in, and that's good, but as nikki haley has said the north koreans use their income their weapons ...