>> absolutely. it's no trick to double your exports in a five-year upswing. the trick is to double your exports without doubling your imports. you know, if exports go up by a trillion, imports go up by two trillion, it's still going to be, you know, millions of jobs lost net. you know, it's no good to create one new export job to lose four new jobs to imports. no, this president talks a good game on trade, but frankly, he plays like the toledo mudhens in this arena. >> but you were critical of the last administration on trade, as well, right? am i right? >> absolutely. this is essentially a co...