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Have to buy the car of obamacare, but we can negotiate the options. trying to be as reasonable sounding as possible to take it off the table between now and the election. ultimately it's a clunker. >> bret: just to be clear, are you saying that the chief medicare actuary is wrong when he says you cannot simultaneously use to other federal outlays and the trust fund? >> is he saying that he thinks the money is used to finance medicare? if that is the case, he is right. i don't think that is what the obama plan called for. >> bret: using other federal outlays, the healthcare law. extend the medi...

Have to buy the car of obamacare, but we can negotiate the options. trying to be as reasonable sounding as possible to take it off the table between now and the election. ultimately it's a clunker. >> bret: just to be clear, are you saying that the chief medicare actuary is wrong when he says you cannot simultaneously use to other federal outlays and the trust fund? >> is he saying that he thinks the money is used to finance medicare? if that is the case, he is right. i don't think that is what the obama plan called for. >> bret: using other federal outlays, the healthcare law. extend the medi...