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Move towards privatization. so he's out of touch with older voters younger voters. he's just out of touch. >> well i remember when john kerry ran in 2004. they just worked him over for a flip-flop. i mean i hope the democrats don't let anybody forget what rubio has done on immigration. he ran from his own position. he took political pressure and couldn't stand up to it. so is that conviction, or political pressure a guy that's going to do some wind sailing? >> what that is ed is evidence that he cannot hack the pressure of the presidency. because last time i checked, there's a little bit of pr...

Any popularity contests. >> on a human level, that's got to bother you to be sitting in an institution like the senate and having your not democrats, fellow republicans so angry at you. >> how much do your colleagues just despise you right now on the floor? i hear really strong language. >> senator, good to see you. what's it like to be the most hated man in america? >> that's an average interview for senator cruz. thanks for joining me, let me ask you why do people hate you. but here's the thing to the republican extremist base, he's a rock star. this week he received an eight-minute standing...

Stamps and even these things that republicans don't like, but american people do like. we know that is the role of government when times are tough. >> arthel: sally, do you feel that this gridlock in congress is more about the opposing parties blocking each other at all costs or do you feel that congress has run out of ideas in terms of ways to move our country forward in terms of being innovative and productive? >> that's a great question. look, in the last roughly continue years, we have tried this policy of cutting and cutting taxes and cutting corporate taxes, doing all these things and we...

>> do you think the country's attitude toward the gun lobby has changed? that maybe that fear is wearing off? and the key here is lawmakers. your thoughts. >> yeah, i think the gun lobby has done a good job demonstrating just how out of touch they are not only with the american public but with nra membership. the american public is clambering for solutions. 92% of americans support universal background checks. >> you have the public on your side? you believe that? >> i've heard the brady campaign labeled by those on the right as a radical group that's just after firearms. you have the people o...

Know, to kind of rile up an extremist base to give party lines to the politicians that do their bidding. the american public can't accept at face value, this is something we can do to save lives. the reality is that those two things can co-exist. we have to hold our elected officials accountable. >> coming up, house democrats are putting the public option back on the table. she will tell us why her bill is good for all of america. stay tuned. ♪ [ male announcer ] how do you make 70,000 trades a second... ♪ reach one customer at a time? ♪ or help doctors turn billions of bytes of shared i...