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Meanwhile, a new poll shows more than half of republican voters want gop leaders to take an even more conservative approach, while 40% want their leaders to move to a more moderate position. joining us to talk about this, former white house political director and deputy chief of staff to president reagan, ed rollins. he was also the national campaign director nor the reagan-bush '84. also joining us, fox news contributor, sally com. good to see both of you. ed, first of all, i want to find out what you make of this strategy of this poll, if the people are suggesting that the party, the republi...

Stamps and even these things that republicans don't like, but american people do like. we know that is the role of government when times are tough. >> arthel: sally, do you feel that this gridlock in congress is more about the opposing parties blocking each other at all costs or do you feel that congress has run out of ideas in terms of ways to move our country forward in terms of being innovative and productive? >> that's a great question. look, in the last roughly continue years, we have tried this policy of cutting and cutting taxes and cutting corporate taxes, doing all these things and we...

So my sense is i'd rather be in this position than to have a situation like when pelosi was the speaker and she passed a 2,000-page bill that she said we've got to pass it before we know what's in it. they're finding out what's in it, it's not so good. >> arthel: what do you think, sally? >> there was a new poll, majority of americans blame republicans in washington for gridlock. so you know, i think, hey, this infighting in the republican party is fascinating and i say good luck, good on that, see how it goes in 2014. this idea that republicans want their members in congress to compromise eve...