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It must address the idealogical problems. you know that takes us to the birth place of islam. that takes us to mecca, saudi arabia or i can, as a muslim, point you to 20 websites and 20 publication enterprises that are exporting this extremist interpretation of islam that people from fort hood to orlando to san bernardino get into their heads to do damage and -- >> neil: couldn't they do that already? couldn't they link up online, wouldn't have to fly anywhere? they can go online and get that? >> yeah. that's why we need a more effective strategy, absolutely, that addresses all of the idealogi...

We are fools if we don't study the koran that fuels the islamic state. we have the battle plan. they are very clear they are following the battle plan that's been laid out by islamic scholars throughout history. we would sell ourselves short if we don't study it fully. you have to know your enemy. part of the enemy is the religion they are practicing. we should not -- i want to say this idea that we are going to give them an ideology victory is very shortsighted. the greater propaganda victory will be if we say clearly that they're extremist interpretation is one that we do not follow and we m...

I am pro gun control. i'm as liberal as you can get, but i'm a muslim also in the community fighting against this extremist interpretation. and it would be so nice if people would actually understand what we are trying to do and also understand that what we are trying to do is also very real. and that it is not about hating on islam or hitting on muslims. we are muslims who are trying to make changes, also, and we are on the same page as what these hearings are talking about in terms of trying to irradicate the extreme itch. it doesn't take care of extremism all over the world or the extremism...