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Will the new leadership, will the new leader be tempted to do something in terms of a nuclear test or a missile shot? how will that be responded to? will that cause a crisis? on the other hand, is this an opportunity where the chinese could pressure this regime to try to get it open up to do some economic reform -- >> greta: i mean, that's a possibility. i was there -- i was there last may and i have been there a couple of times. last may, there was such an influence eye mean, the cars on the road. it was extraordinary. people had cell phones, you couldn't dial out of the country. but the chin...

Regret is what he said. you can't threaten bob woodward. it's not going to scare you. but the young journalist who is come to town here and are trying to cover the white house or do anything and they start getting people being aggressive and abusive. you know, i know we get into the fights with the subjects we cover from time to time, but there is such a thing as transparentsy and lay off. woodward's laying out the facts who, started the seqefer and got the white house mad because he corrected them when they got it wrong. >> i think the white house has been very critical of bob woodward. i don...