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Will the new leadership, will the new leader be tempted to do something in terms of a nuclear test or a missile shot? how will that be responded to? will that cause a crisis? on the other hand, is this an opportunity where the chinese could pressure this regime to try to get it open up to do some economic reform -- >> greta: i mean, that's a possibility. i was there -- i was there last may and i have been there a couple of times. last may, there was such an influence eye mean, the cars on the road. it was extraordinary. people had cell phones, you couldn't dial out of the country. but the chin...

Will the new leadership, will the new leader be tempted to do something in terms of a nuclear test or a missile shot? how will that be responded to? will that cause a crisis? on the other hand, is this an opportunity where the chinese could pressure this regime to try to get it open up to do some economic reform -- >> greta: i mean, that's a possibility. i was there -- i was there last may and i have been there a couple of times. last may, there was such an influence eye mean, the cars on the road. it was extraordinary. people had cell phones, you couldn't dial out of the country. but the chin...

Say, okay. does greece get kicked out of the e.u.? >> i think that's what should happen. i think a greek default is the healthiest thing for a recovery of their currency, see it devalued and get back to making it a place where people are willing to paik put their mon ne. but the key european leaders, it is not the european economy, not the u.s. economy. it is a political imperative they have been following. if they wanted this currency, for economic reasons in part, but for political reasons, as well. to set up europe as a pole in the world, as an alternative to the united states. they're perf...

Say, okay. does greece get kicked out of the e.u.? >> i think that's what should happen. i think a greek default is the healthiest thing for a recovery of their currency, see it devalued and get back to making it a place where people are willing to paik put their mon ne. but the key european leaders, it is not the european economy, not the u.s. economy. it is a political imperative they have been following. if they wanted this currency, for economic reasons in part, but for political reasons, as well. to set up europe as a pole in the world, as an alternative to the united states. they're perf...