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Ukraine. called for it, watch. >> my position is we should not take no-fly zone off of the table. but before that, that's two. we need to do one. and one is to give zelensky exactly what he's asking for. no troops on the ground. let's give him the migs and the f-300s, what he needs to defend his own air space. so, he will create his no -- his own no-fly zone. >> so, if you're starting to get the impression that the people form lating our foreign policy have no freaking clue what they're talking about, and haven't thought past, say, tonight in the implications of what they're recommending, you ...

>> just to mike's point on the resolve of the people of mariupol. as green berets with specialize in gorilla warfare. the key element of the three you need. one is the will to fight. two are the resources to continue that fight against all odds. and then three is a sanctuary where you can get armed and resupplied, which we clearly have now in eastern europey an countries. that will to fight is critical and the old addiage i would rather die on my feet than rather submit on my knees is never more true. from capitol hill perspective, what the ukrainians most need right now are sophisticated air ...

Those polish migs to be delivered to them. your final thoughts? >> if not a no-fly zone but harder to fly zone? getting migs, f-300s in there should enable president zelenskyy to do that. trace: judith miller, always great to see you. thank you for coming on. we appreciate it. >> thank you very much. trace: meantime an american gun company putting a stranded shipment of 400 firearms to very good use. those weapons making their way into the hands of ukrainian resistance fighters. how the family-owned business in florida worked to make that happen. can you imagine the logistical nightmare trying...