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In a particular school, a very special school. so are jurisdictions beginning to blame this on the sequester? is this really the sequester kicking in? >> well, look, there's no free lunch at the end of the day. the reality is, we can and should make cuts wherever possible. if there's waste in the budget, it should be eliminated, we should find efficiencies. but as i indicated, two years ago we cut over $1.2 trillion from this whole portion of the budget. that goes to things like head start. that goes to early education. that goes to special education. so if you're doing a whole 'nother round o...

>> you know, i have no idea about, about the timing of this event. and just, just appalls me that it's got to go to portugal and not stay here where we need the jobs. >> and did you hear that south korea is developing their own sequester? >> i feel like it's just-- i don't know what that is, sure, let them do it. >> and my parents were killed by a sequester. >> okay. >> i'm sorry. (laughter) so like a terrorist, they're building like a robot terrorist? is that what? no, that's not good, yeah. >> and what do you guys think about obama's decision to pardon the quest and send it to portugal? >> t...

Taxpayer dollars, they have-- they owe 912,000 unpaid taxes. >> yeah, i mean, so bad that it's funny. >> i will say that on behalf of federal employees they're not as bad as the rest of us. the delinquency rate among federal workers is 3.2% and irs says 8.2% and the general population, we think that there's about 350 billion dollars in unpaid taxes every year, which would, you know, cover years of sequestration. >> greta: and yes, the percentage might be greater outside the federal government. for some reason, maybe i'm he wrong, i think that the federal workers have greater responsibility as ...

>> okay, brace yourself for this one. you're not going to be able to take a deep breath. federal workers owe 3.5 billion dollars in unpaid taxes. and how do you like that one? not much says our guest. we pay the federal salaries and some skip out on their tax to the tune of 3.5 billion dollars? according to the latest irs report 312,000 federal employees owe back taxes for 2011. some of the biggest offenders, postal workers and washington staffers. and byron york joins us, how does this happen? 3.5 billion from one year and we're looking for money for sequester? >> i mean, this is a lot of mon...

You said flailing? >> that's what i said in my washington examiner column on sunday. look, he was telling us a couple of weeks ago, even just a week ago, that the sequester was going to result in all sorts of head start kids thrown out in the snow, the, you know, the national park system was going to go, you know, out of business or something, and then suddenly on wednesday night last week, he's having dinner with 12 republican senators, he's having lunch with paul ryan, the house budget chairman and his democratic counterpart, chris van holland and thursday. the first time he's spent more tha...