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Thinking big. in a funny way we're doing all this small scare stuff, lose faa guys, look, everybody knows a rough path to stability is this. you try to get hands around and control growth in entitlement spending. you take a look at our tax code, which is kind of an incoherent pigsty that goes thousands of pages. you make it more rational. you make it something that is understandable to people and more allowing of growth. that will help create an air of stability that will actually allow growth to begin. so i don't think this is really all very mysterious. and i feel like the white house and th...

This small scare stuff, lose faa guys, look, everybody knows a rough path to stability is this. you try to get hands around and control growth in entitlement spending. you take a look at our tax code, which is kind of an incoherent pigsty that goes thousands of pages. you make it more rational. you make it something that is understandable to people and more allowing of growth. that will help create an air of stability that will actually allow growth to begin. so i don't think this is really all very mysterious. and i feel like the white house and the hill are caught in this stupid, childish th...

Away, that hits the consumer. maybe something is not drastic. nothing drastic will come of this. even despite the scare tactics, government by freakout. how right is that. i still feel pretty good. >> coming back here, peggy, to medicare reform. that's a big issue. the president has got make medicare cuts, reforms, he doesn't want to raise retirement age. in the past he has sided with chain cpi, reduced benefits. that's what republicans want of i think the feeling is in the white house, why are we going to give on this now? if we give on this we're not going to get tax reform, anything. >> the...