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Convictions. you can't second guess that. now that those statutes have become to be struck down by the courts, giving us secular reasons. now that they're playing defense, what the religious right is doing is saying, let's rely on the free exercise clause in order to allow individuals to sort these claims in court. in some ways, arizona was the easiest case, she showed no evidence of religious discrimination against businesses. land of legal, gay rights organization told me today they had received almost 500 complaints over the past four years about lgbt discrimination in arizona. >> which is ...

Easiest case, she showed no evidence of religious discrimination against businesses. land of legal, gay rights organization told me today they had received almost 500 complaints over the past four years about lgbt discrimination in arizona. >> which is legal. >> it starts to feel like, you hurt my fist when i hit your face argument. but i think as we move to other states, that do have these lgbt laws, i think the conflict is going to be more of a fair fight between the two sides. >> and politically because of that, it's going to be fascinating to see if any other state moves on this after jan ...

Face argument. but i think as we move to other states, that do have these lgbt laws, i think the conflict is going to be more of a fair fight between the two sides. >> and politically because of that, it's going to be fascinating to see if any other state moves on this after jan brewer decided to veto it. fascinating, thank you. >> thank you. governor chris christie just spoke publicly moments ago about the george washington bridge lane closure scandal. he answered questions about it that he has never answered before, and you will want to hear what he said, and we have the tapes next. vo: wh...