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Killed. there ace lot of stuff that we don't know about that happens in the middle east, in yemen in syria and elsewhere. the audience that we're speaking to the audience of terrorist, my sense is they are pretty clear on the fact that if you mess with the united states we are going to come and kill you. jenna: why do they keep doing it? >> religious ideology. they are suicide bombers. obviously this is not a deterrent situation in some of these cases, a lot of them h-r extremists. sometimes it's a matter of deterrence -- jenna: aourbgs it looks like w it looks like we had a slight audio probl...

Lots of things are going on here. his statement last night was very curious in that he raised collusion, saying he would not address all these situations. so, that was kind of -- could be read almost as a threat to tr p trump, that he know ace lot and can talk about a lot. >> we talk about the smaller fish that leads to the bigger fish. if you are paul manafort. there is so much we don't know. but if you are advising him, what are you telling him right now? >> i think you have to tell him that there's a great likelihood