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Face saving measure whether we want to or not. to think he is going to pull back 120,000 troops for no reason because we kept talking is not logical? this would be the largest and most expensive thing to ruse in modern history if he doesn't end up going. and i think there are some things we could put on the table. i leave putin is owning that at the end of the day he can get what he has wanted, which would be an economic collapse of, a political collapse in kyiv and a window to put his own person in. i do think president zelensky has done a good job of walking a very fine line between telling ...

Of face saving off ramp is an indication of how we are now thinking about this white house. maybe he is aiming directly at that 10% of republicans who are starting to disapprove of the measure and hoping this face saving measure will wash with them and think the president is right and his approval ratings amongst his base will start to pick up again. it really points to this white house's credibility that created by this president. >> but the thing is, willie, again, let's underline here are the facts. even if you listen to what o'reilly said last night with bob woodward on, seeming to carry t...

>> very good. >> what about the men in green? >> they're still there. you could look at those as a face saving measure or trouble making measures. he could disassociate with them. then the black sea fleet command could afford them back. it could be a face saving measure or plausible deniabili y deniability. >> ukraine needs according to their own prime minister $35 billion in the next few years. their economy is in dire strain. >> russia has given -- didn't they have guaranteed promises? >> russia promised $15 billion but after this went to hell in the hand basket, they pulled back. maybe they...

>> also the whole idea of loyalty to donald trump, time and time again, it comes back it seems to loyalty. >> that is so key to him. and i do think though with chris christie the bridgegate thing put him over the edge. i don't think it was motivated as much for jared kushner. he had already gotten past that. i think a lot past the thing with his father, the prosecution of his father. when he came for the first rival to come out for donald trump. look they have a complicated history no doubt, jared kushner and chris christie. but once bridgegate happened that was just a bridge too far, excuse t...