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>> are we putting children in cages, as of today? >> children are processed at the border facility stations that you've been at, some of them -- >> and i've seen the cages. i just want you to admit that the cages exist. >> sir, they're not cages. >> the senate is expected to vote against the president's national emergency declaration as early as next week. the house already has. the president is expected to veto it if it reaches his desk. in the meantime, there's still much more ahead on "world news tonight" this wednesday. the disturbing discovery at a popular trail. a child's body found in...

In a cage. >> purposefully or whatever, are we putting children in cages, as of today? >> children are processed at the border facility stations that you've been at. some of the areas -- >> and i've seen the cages. i want you to admit that the cages exist. >> sir, they're not cages. >> were you aware that the zero-tolerance policy would lead to minors being separated from their parents, yes or no? >> as we increased consequences for those who break the law -- >> i have such limited time, madame secretary. i'm sure you can appreciate that. >> as a consequence of a parent going to jail, we do no...

She never answers a yes or no question with a yes or a no, and i think that's because if she did, she would have to say what we all know. that her department's treatment of migrant children, the policy of ripping those children from their parents is indefensible. despite her evasiveness and her previous lies on the subject, and there have been many, democrats still did their best to rtry to pin her down today. >> are we still using cages for children? >> sir, we don't use cages for children. >> madame, madame -- >> i'm being as clear as i can, sir. i'm trying to answer -- >> just yes or no, ar...

Putting children in cages? >> to my knowledge, cbp never purposely put a child in a cage, if you mean a cage like this. >> purposely or whatever, are we putting children in cages as of today? >> children are processed at the border facility stations that you've been at, some of -- >> and i've seen the cages. i just want you to admit that the cages exist. >> sir, they're not cages. >> what is a chain link fence enclosed in a chamber on a concrete floor represent to you? is that a cage? >> it's a detention space, ma'am. >> does it differ from the cages you put your dogs in when you let them stay...

Case? >> to my knowledge a child nerve purposely was put in a cage. >> purposely or whatever, are we putting children in case as of today? >> children are processed at the border facility stations that you've been at, some of -- >> i want you to admit that the case exist. >> sir, they are not case. >> what are they? >> areas of the border facility that are carved out for the safety and protection of those who remain there while they are being processed. >> so what did you do? i one it's complicated, we have a big bureaucratic system. when you saw those pictures of babies in case, what did you ...