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Of the crime. and say are you what you will, spin what you will. he wants to go where he wants to go. he doesn't want to go where he doesn't. oops, i want to do this. a person can be agitated or act in a variety of ways, but the big take away for me is at the end of the day, where is he? where she's found, where she's dead, and you know what? a lot of people say he's responsible. and so i think that's what prosecutors will point to as the take away as it relates to that testimony. >> well, certainly the fact pattern has gotten worse for him from the first account. first account you don't know ...

>> harris: a business like was a word used by his administration. >> emily: and then he attacks and unvaccinated. and he has used the word condemned for the unvaccinated and the word we got for the televangelist challenging. b6 event of the white house before and you know that when you were trying to get a point made, we get a different message every day. it's a repackaging. >> i can tell you why, in the white house you say you have a messaging problem or a fact problem. they have both here because there messaging is everywhere but maybe it's because they're fact pattern, their policy is every...

January 6. >> anna, pelosi nixed him, but mccarthy trying to nominate this guy and gem jordan is clearly an effort to derail the whole thing. it is an important hearing but at the end of the day, does the american voter care? >> i hope they do. i certainly want to hear what actually happened and where the breakdown in security was met in the capitol in terms of their elected leaders. i think the question will be do democrats overplay their hand, do they continue to make this more of a factual information hunt are we'll see a lot of the stunning video that we've already started to see, but can ...

Other information and so that is the part of this that of course would destroy donald trump if these companies ever got to the discovery stage and they got to subpoena information from donald trump. but it has to survive a motion to dismiss to get to that stage. and it clearly won't. it is also a fund-raiser for donald trump. he immediately went to work fundraising off the lawsuit. >> and if we were lucky enough to get to the discovery process, one of the things that would come out of this. the reason he was kicked off the social media platforms is that he incited an insurrection on january 6t...

From the oval office is where we start this hour with pennsylvania attorney general's shapiro. i know the journalist that is cover the justice department are duty-bound to offer the most generous evaluation of what is emerging, the fact pattern, but we now have e-mails that prove donald trump was directing his acting attorney general on the day bill barr left to overturn the results in six days. do you have any doubt that he was seeking to remain in power? >> not at all. we knew this before, but we have e-mails to confirm it, people at the highest levels of government were willing to do everyt...