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>> harris: a business like was a word used by his administration. >> emily: and then he attacks and unvaccinated. and he has used the word condemned for the unvaccinated and the word we got for the televangelist challenging. b6 event of the white house before and you know that when you were trying to get a point made, we get a different message every day. it's a repackaging. >> i can tell you why, in the white house you say you have a messaging problem or a fact problem. they have both here because there messaging is everywhere but maybe it's because they're fact pattern, their policy is every...

Not about getting wrong that he's the ambassador to ukraine. that's a fact problem. he has a much bigger problem is that they are clearly trying to mitigate his relevance. and he may not be a pro at diplomacy but i'm sure his lawyer, he's a sophisticated guy, he has to feel they're starting to move him away from them. how does that play? >> well, first of all, this guy gave a million dollars to trump's inaugural. so we have seen before when especially when trump has tried to distance himself from, say, you know, people in his campaign, you know, michael cohen was acting rogue. that tends to ps...

House officials, they have no need for a war room in their fight against impeachment. a de facto war room has been established after all. quote, for the past several weeks, senior trump white house officials have held a near daily meeting. almost every morning around 10:00 a.m. there is an impeachment messaging coordination meeting in either the sit room or the roosevelt room. joining our conversation, "washington post" columnist and msnbc contributor eugene robinson. i just -- i mean, this is your reporting i want to press you on what they talk about other than the mess menu. but, one, i thin...

Prepare for this tremendous onslaught. this is a moral issue. i want people to come into our country in the largest numbers ever. but they have to come in legally. >> look, you'll see a ton of fact checks about the last part of that statement. where his administration, and those around it, have proposed a lot of reductions to legal immigration. so him saying he wants more than ever, he's got a fact problem with that. but let's get to the main part of the message, which is, the left wants you to be exposed to the dangers of the brown menace, as i call his depiction. the migrants coming from mex...

Problem is realizing have you one. do you think the media is self-aware to know enough that they have an issue here? >> i don't think that they are aware of it. i think they think they are doing a good job. i don't have a problem with people having a opinions. i hate when people pretend they're unbiased journalists. pete: bingo. >> when clearly they are not. some of these have agenda globalist agenda. when trump calls them the enemy of the people fake news media. they are when they're not being honest. pete: 95% of conservatives republicans think there is bias in the media. overall that distru...