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The president has made clear, a border waum, border fence, border structure of some kind, is basically mandatory for him to sign off on any deal to reopen the government, so where does that leave things? well, at this point, lawmakers on capitol hill say they're looking into next week. they're looking into 2019, they're looking into the moment on january 3, where democrats retake control of the house, for the first action of any kind, legislatively, to try and reopen the government. here's the catch. that action doesn't necessarily portend a reopening of the government. nancy pelosi the incomi...

Forward, well, first, take a look at congress, we know that congress is set to start, all of those new members are going to be sworn in on january 3. and harris doesn't really have a legal leg to stand on. despite the fact that he was in the lead. without a court order, and without certification, there is no legal authority that says that he should get the seat. but in addition to that, if he were to show up, let's say, and try to claim the seat, democrats say they are going to fight against this tooth and nail. take a listen. >> his election has not been certified. in light of that, and in li...

File a lawsuit, calling him a, quote, political hack, and saying intelligence community critics are only concerned with losing the money and prestige they have that a security clearance brings. let's bring in democratic congressman ted liu from california. congressman, thanks so much for joining us. so is the president going through what his critics are describing as an enemy's list, trying to inflict whatever damage he can? >> thank you, wolf, for your question. that's absolutely correct, and i think it's important to understand that just because a president has the power to take an action do...

You obviously used to work inside the government. now you're outside, essentially, helping people -- consulting is the word i'm looking for. it's been a long morning. help us understand what specifically are the security clearances for? >> security clearances allow people to have access to information that's important to the united states' national security. when you're talking about people who are leaving the government, many of them go to clear defense contractors. they go into the private sector. they are still potentially working on national security related matters. i think that there is ...

Counsel for the cia and the general counsel for the department of defense. he as a lawyer would know just how dangerous a precedence this would set. it is beyond weaponizing the clearance process. what you're saying is the president will use this now like the pardon power in reverse, right? use this to stop, hinder, and obstruct justice, and commit crimes, simply because he has the right to do it. that is not why the clearance process works. as shawn put it so well, it is designed to give people access who require access to classified information, and these ex-directors need to maintain an act...