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We are bacwith our rnd table. joining me now, former secretary of health and human services for president clinton, donna shalala. chairman and ceo of the special olympics tim shriver is here, author author of the book "fail up" tavis smiley and former secretary of education and host of bill bennett in the morning, billbennett. welcome to all of you. such a big topic. it's complicated on one level, has a lot of layers but it's so important. bill bennett, have we succeeded in this country in making education an economic issue rather than just a social issue? >> i think we have. everyone is focus...

We are back with our round table. joining me now, former secretary of health and huma we are back with our round table. joining me now, former secretary of health and human services for president clinton, donna shalala. chairman and ceo of the special olympics. tim shriver is here. author of the book "fail up" tavis smiley and host of bill bennett in the morning, bill bennett. welcome to all of you. this is such a big topic. it's such a -- i don't know. it's complicated on one level. it has a lot of layers, but it's so important. big bennett, have we succeeded in this country in making educa...

Abraham lincoln is the political story, loses one election after another, he pharmaceuticals fai. talk about how people who get knocked around and do great things in a turnaround in their lives. >> the mayor will be on my show tonight on pbs while you're in london and i suspect we will talk about that tonight. the book "fail up" is about reminding people anyone successful in any endeavor, politics, entertainment, sports, law, business, anyone successful in any endeavor will admit they learned much more from their failures than successes. i love samuel beckett's formulation, put it this way, ev...