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>> that's a good question. i think they wanted to certainly get ahead of the testimony people will hear in the hearing, to create that tape, if it were, last night that's been played on the news all day today. it's really driving the narrative, and they get kavanaugh out there in a photo with his wife, ashley, at his side. they were hoping, i think, that this would be an effective strategy for them. >> jake, who is he talking to when he does this interview? fox news is a network the president watches often. it's a network that many will say has a certain bend -- is bent towards the president. ...

Sequester the jury so they are not distracted by all the news and fed by the news rather than the actual thing. the fbi could have asked them questions. n democrats blew up that process. there is no way that they could do it. led me read what you senator biden said that during anita hill hearings. he said fbi report as being worth anything, they don't understand anything. the fbi does not in this or any other case reach a conclusion, period. that was senator biden. >> all right. thanks for coming on. much appreciate it. up ahead, there is a cloud hanging over washington. and i'm not just tal...

As judge kavanaugh. and then the committee meeting. and then the floor consideration. then the final vote. several stages ahead. and each of these witnesses who will appear before us on thursday will be under oath to tell the truth. i tho i hope that they do and i hope that we come to a conclusion. in terms of investigati in terms of future investigations, i don't want to go there. >> one other future question. if democrats win the senate, are you open to bringing back the filibuster? because a lot of us believe if the filibuster -- if it was a 630 on vote threshold, this would be a different ...

Weren't true. it's hard to know the degree unless you have witnesses like the roommate. >> stellar reporting, thank you so much for coming to give us a debrief on it. matt mccarty is currently chairman of the mccarty associates. she's also an msnbc political analyst and she's going to have to run shortly because she's got a radio show that comes on at noon every day. we won't keep you long. matt, kavanaugh has been hunkered down in the white house for a number of days, repeated a number of the talking points we've heard from republicans during that interview last night. here's part of what h...

Carry this on their own. >> senator murkowski has given a couple interviews is about what she thinks as of now, and she just told some reporters that she believes that there -- or that an fbi investigation would help get to the bottom of what happened. here's lisa murkowski. >> you know, i mentioned earlier very quickly that an investigation would certainly clear up some of the questions that are out there, but as i understand how the process works, it is not for the judiciary committee to make that ask. so i'm operating under a level of a process that is in place that we are working within an...