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>> we have to go to growth first. >> unless we invest in education and infrastructure and we aren't doing that under the ryan budget. >> this is the fiery speech of the economic fairness argument. let's listen to the president. >> here in america we don't give up. here in america we look out for each other. here in america we watch each other get ahead. here in america we have a sense of common preface. here in america we can meet any challenge. here in america we can seize any moment. we can make this century another great american century. thank you, god bless you. god bless the united state...

Conrad pull up on the sunday show over the weekend, things might be going great now. you don't want to go back to mitt romney, they put together the economic policies that got us into this mess in the first place, i've not heard a retort to that. >> what are those economic policies? are they the bush tax cuts? that's what they seem to allude to. if they were so bad, why did president obama keep him in place in 2009 and 2010 when he had 60 democrats in the senate and 255 democrats in the house. you notice the democrats aren't very specific about what the so-called policies got us into. i think ...

How do we get as jfk said -- >> we have to go to growth first. >> unless we invest in education and infrastructure and we aren't doing that under the ryan budget. >> this sh the fiery speech of the economic fairness argument. let's listen to the president. >> here n /* /-. >> here in america we don't give up. here in america we look out for each other. here in america we watch each other get ahead. here in america we have a sense of common preface. here in america we can meet any challenge. here in america we can seize any moment. we can make this century another great american century. thank ...

Not because it's the high marginal rate. i think you have to think about this differently. i understand the political appeal to this. the secondary question -- >> should we raise the capital gains rate? >> there's a legitimate argument. go 15% to 20% or higher on the money buffett makes on his investments. that being said, the secondary question, which i think romney will ask is if you do all these things, how much money will you raise toward paying down the debt? there's a fairness argument and how do you pay down the debt argument? a guy like romney and buffett should pay more taxes. we shou...

Whole lot worse than that. it doesn't bode well when you've got a serious figure in the republican party dealing with these issues where you've got to work with the white house, treating the president as if he's some kind of child. and likewise, it doesn't help that the president says that, you know, the other side are being childish. you've got to get beyond the name calling to fix the problem, but this isn't problem-solving season. in the end, if you're going to try and litigate budget questions to the people, they're going to glaze over because they're all playing games with accounting and ...