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It is a complete abrogation of the president's duty to uphold the law, to faithfully execute the law. and instead he is trying to grab political power in a breathtaking way. and the justices who are constitutionalists and textualists would be out of what they have, their responsibility to make sure that the president stays in his lane. howard: i'm the, i've got about a minute for you to respond -- tim -- one of the things gayle said is this is the sole purpose of grabbing power, but i'm willing to acknowledge that maybe joe biden believes this is a good idea. but there is the question about fa...

Here. and i know it can get kind of wonky, but the question is, is it legal for a president to act on his own and cosuch a thing. >> well, these justices, conservative justices are strict tex chowlists, they should look at the twea law that gives the secretary of education the ability to waive or modify student debt during a national emergency. it is the really clear. but now we've moved to this fairness question which is interesting as well, because 90 percent of the debt relief goes to people making under $75,000 to. we've seen as applications came in two-thirds of those applications came fr...

Testimony and all of that in front of the senate. so i do think you still have folks there, even on trump's side has say you know what, there's a fairness question. >> is it going to move four or five republican senators? >> you know what, it is not going to move enough to remove him but could move enough, a handful, that are involved. >> so we get a trial then? >> i think there will be a trial. >> real one with witnesses? >> i think maybe there will be witnesses. >> that's a great question. do you think republicans, do you think susan collins, cory gardner, mitt romney, could they join the 47...

We don't want to have alternative facts. and i see many minority groups, and i am a minority. but i don't feel that sentiment at all. whatsoever. >> so reuters did a poll and they did several and it's showing dramatic increases of support among black people. by the way, when i talked to many black people, they do say this. but why don't we see when alec baldwin says to a black man who uses the n-word in reference to him, why doesn't he get his show taken away? why does joy behar get to post some of the most obnoxious things and all we see are great accolades? what i am asking about is, why is ...

Want to have alternative facts. and i see many minority groups, and i am a minority. but i don't feel that sentiment at all. >> so writers did a poll and it's showing dramatic increases in support among black people. by the way, when i talked to many black people, they do say this. but why don't we see when alec baldwin says to a black man who uses the n-word in reference to him, why doesn't he get his show taken away? why does joy behar get to post of the most obnoxious things, and all we see is great accolades? what i am asking about is, why is it that the condemnation seems to only go one w...