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Articles of impeachment, one of them might be for blocking subpoenas and that, this subpoena, for this stuff, will be something that ties the ukraine scandal directly into that larger pattern. >> mary, quickly, plain view. this president, saying things in plain view. maybe hoping that therefore, it inoculates what is actually happens. >> it seems strategic, doesn't it? where you come out and say what you're doing and it allows you to come back to the other end and said yes we're open about this. >> china, we'll take your help. >> yes, exactly. >> charlie savage, mary harris, host of the podcas...