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Their bill, as they've designed it now, in its most optimistic form, would leave another 15 million, 20 million people without any insurance at all, and so all those same sob stories will exist after this bill takes full effect. so it seems like they couldn't really embrace the morality argument because in their moral choice, they were leaving out about half the people. >> yeah. they should have started with single payer. i mean, even if they weren't going to get it, it is what most other western democracies have. it's the one program that makes sense, but, okay, we live in a country that does...

Going to get it, it is what most other western democracies have. it's the one program that makes sense, but, okay, we live in a country that doesn't make sense. but at least start with that. during the campaign, obama said, if we were starting from scratch, single payer would make sense. well, then, let's start from scratch. that is kind of where we are in this country right now. and if they had started from that, then the fallback compromise position would have at least been the public option. but they didn't even start with the public option. he didn't even defend that. so what you have here...

Scratch, single payer would make sense. well, then, let's start from scratch. that is kind of where we are in this country right now. and if they had started from that, then the fallback compromise position would have at least been the public option. but they didn't even start with the public option. he didn't even defend that. so what you have here is probably more of a republican plan than the one that was on the table in '93 that the republicans were defending. >> bill maher, right again. that was my interview with legislative policy analyst bill maher of "realtime" on hbo. stand by, ther...