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Involuntary manslaughter. put aside what happened before the statement was made. then you have the question whether the force used was reasonable. whether or not the injuries he would receive are of a sufficient nature that it would cause a reasonable person to think their life was in danger. given what we have from the facts, it doesn't appear these are particular injuries. even though there's blood, it wasn't deep seeded injuries of a kind. you could say you have a good faith but unreasonable belief that your life was in danger. that gives you manslaughter on these particular facts. although...

We know him. his 12-year-old daughter, polly, was kidnapped and killed nearly 20 years ago. also joining me, jeff gardere, he's a psychologist and nbc news contributor. thank you, jeff. thank you, marc. tell me what it tells us about the missing persons. you hear young women running away fwr from their parents, maybe a difficult situation at home or they just want to have freedom. are they never heard from again and police rest the case, they kill it? what happened to these cases, do you think? >> the fallback position used to be that if a girl is missing or a child is missing, that they're mo...

Away fwr from their parents, maybe a difficult situation at home or they just want to have freedom. are they never heard from again and police rest the case, they kill it? what happened to these cases, do you think? >> the fallback position used to be that if a girl is missing or a child is missing, that they're most likely a runaway. that would absolve law enforcement of most responsibility. we've learned the 20 years since polly that that's not the case at all. for a variety of reasons, children are snatched off the street either by other family members or in the rare instance, strangers, su...

Guess where whether on newsstands or walmart or other places. we were talking before about how just 13 years ago the national conversation was jolted when governor howard dean signed this new construct called sieve unions and how that became the fallback position and now you're looking at a democratic party where the next nominee will be someone who is for fully marriage equality. >> what has happened, you're smart to cite that, what the story trace is out is this idea that the combination of the idea of marriage becoming a civil right, this idea that zone of privacy protects whatever we do in...

The party sort of -- you start seeing more and more of these public splits on issues? >> i think so. and i think it's not just what senator portman has said but also trends that his statement reflects which more and more americans have moved in that direction in many cases because of similar experiences with senator portman, people they know and care about who are gay and in relationships and they have made this switch. the interesting thing, though, is that senator rubio who, of course -- >> right. >> -- reaffirmed his opposition to same-sex marriage, rubio and portman, though, are on the sam...