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broadway i saw the empire state lay low ♪ ♪ life went on beyond the palisades they all bought cadillacs left there long ago ♪ ♪ to tell the world about the way the light went out to keep the memory alive ♪ >> it's all these human emotions. for some reason we can tap into that as musicians. >> when we came up with this idea of doing this series of in-depth interviews with really extraordinary people we started thinking about whom we should try to get and whom we should ask. and we thought about the usual political figures, obama, the dali lama. and i come back to the idea of...

>> when i finished writing i said that's really good. >> a lot of times when you write you're moved by events. you know your music is kind of rich with history and culture, so you hear about new york going bankrupt. >> yes. >> and you hear about ford saying to new york city drop dead, that famous headline. and that motivates you to write "miami 2017," right? >> yes. i mean i'm part of the world also. aside from being a musician i'm affected by events. if you think about it right before the beatles hit which was on the ed sullivan show 1964 what happened right prior to

That made the second term more difficult. >>neil: we remember the famous headline. george wallace was the first real modern era successful third party candidate, do you think that he cost humphrey the presidency? >>guest: no. no. if wall has had not been in the race, if he did not take the 13 percent he did, nixon, the republican, would have won a large majority, probably about 55 percent. >>neil: so he divided the conservative vote. >>guest: he nearly cost nixon the election they both got 43 percent of the vote. >>neil: people forget john anderson, former republican, in 1980 who challenged ro...