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Clarissa we had nikki haley on, the ambassador to the u.s., one-time governor of south carolina. had a couple of important things to say. one, this is so much different than what has been decided in the past, and afghanistan and pakistan aren't on the travel ban because we know enough about the people who are traveling from those countries wanting to come into the u.s. what do you make of those two notions? >> well i think let's start with the first notion. i think president trump had a really piece of fancy footwork that he had to do here. he had to basically justify why he was doubling down ...

Provide a couple of areas where they can provide common ground and that would go a long way to winning over support from the people who voted for trump that had been obama supporters. those are the runs they need to reach out, to obama supporters who are now for trump. they have to start peeling some of those people back. >> ann, let's game out a biden run for a second. he would have to distance himself a bit from some of the things that president obama did. >> sure. and -- and you saw him do that had a little tiny bit on behalf of hillary clinton campaigning for her in the waning months. he w...

Assad, his father was also supported by the russians. this is a very old, deep relationship. the russians have said for a while now it's not so much that they're attached to bashar al-assad as much as they are attached to the importance of sovereignty and respecting the sovereignty of syria. but it will be very difficult to persuade them after all the money that they have spent supporting assad, after all the weaponry that they have poured in there, after all the power on the geopolitical stage that they have been given by having this prominent seat in this conflict. it will be very difficult ...

Those sort of democrats, moderate democrats who might come on board and who on would appreciate that. >> and i think beyond that, on gorsuch's part, it is putting his foot down for the judicial independence he hopes to have once he's on the court. i mean, he didn't -- >> once he becomes a so-called justice. >> that's right. he didn't call lindsey graham on any one of those things. he let lindsey graham make every single one of those points that yes, the president could be in potential legal jeopardy, yes, this could come to the supreme court. yes, no one is above impeachment. i thought there w...

Counterintelligence investigation. >> so you're saying, ken, this isn't going away any time soon. >> absolutely not. >> i want to bring in vit gemali and author of "how to catch a russian spy." good to see you. >> i agree with ken, they're going to have to address this claim by the president that essentially there say wiret and the danger with that is as ken is saying by admitting it or denying it. they're essentially admitting or denying that there is a larger investigation and just from a law enforcement standpoint they don't like to admit that investigations are going on until they're ready...