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Jesse: joining me now, we'll start with you, liz. the toxicity question. you can't disagree with the fact that pelosi is more toxic than president trump in a widespread of the united states of america. >> anyone in congressional leadership ends up being toxic. look at paul ryan's numbers? his numbers are basically in pelosi territory. they are pretty bad. but this is the thing. whoever we replace her with is going to be equally unpopular. the argument you are hearing from democrats that we'll find a new savior is fantastical. to think we'll pick someone republicans won't demonize and hate is f...

Jesse: joining me now, we'll start with you, liz. the toxicity question. you can't disagree with the fact that pelosi is more toxic than president trump in a widespread of the united states of america. >> anyone in congressional leadership ends up being toxic. look at paul ryan's numbers? his numbers are basically in pelosi territory. they are pretty bad. but this is the thing. whoever we replace her with is going to be equally unpopular. the argument you are hearing from democrats that we'll find a new savior is fantastical. to think we'll pick someone republicans won't demonize and hate is f...

Talked this -- made an astute observation, when trump met someone unlike he ever dealt with before. bob mueller is comey times ten in terms of recollect attitude, in terms of respect for institutions, in terms of the absence of partisan polarity and all the kind of lunacy that pervades everything in the trump era. trump has no idea what he is dealing with here when he looks at bob mueller. if he thinks by being ambiguous and issuing threats through cutouts is going to make mueller focus and vindicate him fully, man. >> that's a fantastic misread of the situation. >> fantastical. >> john, thank...

With before. bob mueller is comey times ten in terms of recollect attitude, in terms of respect for institutions, in terms of the absence of partisan polarity and all the kind of lunacy that pervades everything in the trump era. trump has no idea what he is dealing with here when he looks at bob mueller. if he thinks by being ambiguous and issuing threats through cutouts is going to make mueller focus and vindicate him fully, man. >> that's a fantastic misread of the situation. >> fantastical. >> john, thank you for joining us tonight. appreciate it sir. tonight's last word is next. for 70 yea...

With the russians. >> this is his chance to get everything he knows out. >> if richard painter were the ethics lawyer who oversaw the filling out of forms and the testifying before congress of all of the trump cabinet officials and all the cabinet staff, i think he would have lost his mind. i mean he was the ethics lawyer in the white house in which i worked. if i left off a meeting in which a reporter bought me a soda, i would have been hauled in before the white house counsel. i mean where they have taken this is to such a new low, it is hard to articulate how outside the mainstream it is fo...