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Get on with my life. >> did timothy mcvay ever stay here? >> yes. yes. he stayed here several times. the longest period about three months or so. he was a nice guy. >> decent guy? >> oh, yeah. so they didn't find anything on this farm? >> as to what? bomb making? yeah. i had dynamite fuse, black powder, sure. diesel fuel, fertilizer, but that is normal farm stuff. that was no way connected in any way to the oklahoma city bombing or bomb making. them people, law enforcement, if you want to call them that, were here and they were shaking in their shoes. they were physically shaking, scared to de...

On with my life. >> did timothy mcveigh stay here? >> yes. longest period, three months or so. i don't know. he was a nice guy. >> decent guy? >> oh, yeah. >> they didn't find anything on this farm? >> as to what? bomb-making material? >> any explosives. >> yeah. i had blasting caps, dynamite fuse, black powder, you know, sure. diesel fuel, fertilizer. it is normal farm stuff. it is no way connected in any way whatsoever to the oklahoma city bombing or bomb making. them people, law enforcement if you want to call them that, were here, and they were shaking in their shoes. they were physically ...

Question, the deal makers that say let's scare china and get a better deal. there are people that, no, we need to disentangle this relationship. which do you think will prevail? >> there is a group that says if china buys more stuff, boeing jets, ranching products, farm stuff, that we can resettle accounts a bit and the president can tap those as examples of his leadership. another group says it needs to be deeper, structure reforms, china discarding 2025 and allowing other firms engagement in china. there's even a third group that

Question, there really seems to be a division in the administration there, the deal makers who say let's scare china and get a better deal. and there's people who feel like peter navarro, we need to have a break, disinen tangle this economic relationship. which do you think will prevail? >> i actually think it's easy as two groups. there's definitely a group that says if china buys more stuff in the united states, boeing, jets, and, you know, ranching products, farm stuff that we can resettle accounts a bit and the president can tout those as examples of his leadership. there's another group t...