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I don't know if this department, what was he going to appoint -- >> department of business. >> would need congressional approval would ever get off the ground if nothing else, you know, would -- it would just be a distraction right now, with everything he would have to do. i don't write it off. it doesn't make sense. >> josh, listening to that jamie dimon quote, the notion somehow the president was impugning work ethic and an enemy of business, will that name finally get laid to rest? can they let it go, as far as i know it was the fat cat comment, the fat cat comment, maybe dodd/frank, which ...

Are folks that are obama supporters that say just tell us what it's going to look like. >> i can tell you what it's going to look like. i happen to have been an obama supporter and the "daily news" endorsed him. i will point out something unique to this administration and that is they have absolutely displayed a hostile attitude to business and finance that really is pervasive now in the business community and i think that really affects the level of confidence and optimism that the business community feels. instead of uniting the country, i would say to you that it was a program of dividing t...

Republicans have responded with a plan that protects current seniors and makes long-term -- >> and privatizes the program. >> sometimes we have to do something about it, my point. we can't keep having the discussions that taxing one group of people and not taxing others and we can't believe we're going to tax our way out of this. we're not going to tax our wait out of this economic problem in this country. >> need to have a debate and this is what we're doing, but, also, ask yourself, am i better off than when obama came into office. what has government done for me? i feel like his rhetoric, h...

Anybody says about this. i know what will work. >> john harwood joins me live from south carolina where perry will make his remarks. fat cat seems to be the, i don't know, new phrase of this campaign. i just know it's very bad. very bad to be a fat cat, john. tell me a little bit about how rick perry seemed to be because there is this sense that this proposal is sort of his chance to revive a flagging campaign. >> exactly. he shot to the top of the race after getting in. he came in with strong support from social conservatives. but when his poll numbers dropped after some weak debate, he's try...

People who retire in the year 2027. something like that. put it off. let somebody else worry about it. >> let's talk about this. it looks like down on wall street, even though they have been supporting the democrats with their financial contributions. in fact, i think it was 2-1 at the beginning of last year. now, even money. sounds like wall street is hedging their bets. >> wall street didn't particularly care for the fat cat comment delivered twice by our president, a democrat. they didn't much care for the bonus bashing that's been rampant and they don't much care for the shaping up of fina...