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Kind of debate we need to have. the crimes are so serious that to introduce this highly emotional, highly charged debate about whether an abortion statute, and that's what this statute is now that abortion of course is legal in the first and perhaps the second trimester, it doesn't apply to most abortions but it would apply to late term unlawful abortions, it's just the wrong debate to have in this horrible case. >> gloria, let's just move quickly to another aspect of this, which is his potential confessing that's going on to the police today. cnn has been reporting that he's made some partial...

Doesn't it, on every level. >> you know, i have to tell you that the unfortunate part is that it's not, you know, when you're part of this >> unforchew gnatly, it's not something new. but when i first heard the news, it was a sense of betrayal. it was a sense of shame. and, at first, i felt a sense of powerlessness, at first, and thinking, oh, my goodness, these are our neighbors, as i've been saying. and as so many people have been saying. and then i realized now we can take hold of this opportunity. now, something that has seemd so unreal, it's such a reality for so many americans because no...

Reporter that sparked such anger? why did you decide to give him such a piece of your mind? >> well, i had been hearing him hijacking these news -- governor deval patrick was making press conferences and he kept hijacking them with these questions. and i had a dear friend of mine who was at the marathon when the bomb went off. she was about 20 feet away. her name's tracy monroe. she ran, at first, and then saw a young girl with her leg blown off and ran to help her. and i was very affected by her, what she had experienced and by the people who, you know, were at the marathon and i felt very --...

Death actually. >> say the last part again? i'm sorry? >> i didn't hear him. >> tina, if you're still with me, you were describing this feeling of getting knocked off your feet. i can only imagine standing in the back yard of our own home, watching this explosion in a distance. did your house survive? >> well, no, sir, my house did not survive. the inside is a total loss. i'm thankful to be alive. i was in the house at first, and if i would have stayed in the house and not got out of the house, my neighbor called, the windows in the house had blown inward and i probably would have been dead by...

You know, that's against the law right there. >> is it? >> to transmit that to somebody you think is underage. yes, it is. >> i didn't transmit it, though. no, i didn't transmit that to her. may i ask -- >> "do you see my pic in the chat window? yeah. you think you would like that in you? how big is it? well, you saw. go get a can of coke. dang, will it hurt? a little. yes, at first." now, what conclusion am i supposed to draw here, john? >> i can't say anything. i'm done. i'm fried. >> well, there's -- >> please arrest me. >> pretty much from the get-go babst seems to realize that 12 differen...