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African-americans and of whites, back and forth. >> jon meacham. >> david, on the question of guns and, you know, this would not have happened if there had not been what a lot of us think are misguided laws about standing one's ground, although when it becomes your ground and you have the gun and the other person isn't -- doesn't, raises all sorts of questions. mayor bloomberg is out with i think an equally eloquent statement given what joe manchin has been working on, what the newtown legacy has been, does this verdict give any energy at all to legislation both in washington where you are, bu...

Advocates for immigration reform had asked democrats not to put the dream act back on the floor because it doesn't include their parents, doesn't include their families. we want to do the whole thing all at once. we don't just want to do young people. that's going to put potentially democrats into something of a dilemma. do house democrats want to reject offering legalization to these young people because it doesn't go far enough and then do they end up with nothing. so that's sort of the tension that republicans are setting up going forward for this debate. >> i think congress right now in it...

Anything else. it was a legal argument whether he acted within the law is that not correct, and legally, what's next, a look at the laws or civil action? >> well, and you're exactly right. even though there's this overriding sense, which i think the jury may have had, that george zimmerman did something wrong when he got out of the car armed looking for trayvon martin, the fact that he was very wrong even fatality wrong doesn't mean he was criminally wrong with respect to a self-defense claim and the reasonable doubt standard. i think in the next phase as we look at things, there could certain...

Never have to going to tell them never leave the house armed, going out looking for trouble. >> this guy wasn't even the police. >> he had a gun and i know the debate about the stand your ground laws, but doesn't this conversation raise an issue about whose ground. >> exactly. >> why was it george zimmerman's ground. >> you know what might be the largest element of all here, and i've been reminded of it the past three weeks, working on a long-term project that has taken me almost on a daily basis into a minority community, and i would have to tell you the belief any young black males have in t...

Have to get into without being pro life. i don't want to spoil the information from the article but 70% of americans believe abortion should be illegal in the second trimester. i believe more people are in favor of the bill passed in congress than weren't. i think as republicans we have to realize that. it's a reasonable position. it's one of our foundational positions of the republican party. we need to be able to de fend it in a way that doesn't offend people. i think we can. it's key to our success. >> david, joe wrote this in politico, he read your piece, sunday's "new york times" ran a da...