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We have the equivalent of a shanty town on the banks of the rio grande river in del rio, texas. jillian: the images we are seeing in the drone video and reporters from the ground and stories telling you pregnant women giving birth to babies in these conditions. you have a lot of people on the other side criticizing the use of whips from some of our law enforcement on horseback but that has been debunked and we have been told that they are reins. there is a still a lot happening here it makes you wonder, ron, are we at the point notify return with this crisis? i can't fathom a scenario in which...

Win. i can't fathom a circumstance where democrats are going to agree to 5 billion for a border wall. what might happen is they may come together for things like security and you've seen him using that language border security, things like, you know, more protections, more visualizations. different things that actually the experts say -- >> which democrats voted for in the past. >> right, that they have supported and voted for in the past. if he can message that as a win, that's probably the best that he could get at this point. >> jim, where do you think chuck schumer's head is on this? do yo...

>> eric: you say we give away so much stuff you want to come back as than illegal next time? >> yes, i do. just think about this, fathom a government that requires everyone to be insured but does not require everyone to be a citizen, yet all who are citizens will pay for all of those that are not. give me a break. there is something massively i will logic and the government can't figure it out. >> eric: you disagree with wayne and monica? >> i have been on this program where you have assaulted the affordable care act for the individual mandated requiring people to buy health insurance. commerc...