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State and benghazi. state department e-mails released because of the questions over the server ares and the benghazi erngs mails released because of the investigation goes on. and the new york times has a title. clinton trough shoes fax machine confusion and little fodder for opponents. apparently clinton had questions about her fax machine and that's what the new york times is talking about. we don't know. we don't have the e-mails in their entirity. >> we don't and the order that the state department is operating under is releasing so many a month. and we have to wait for another installment...

Whole time. >> it's interesting that you brip up her concern with media coverage. not surprising. she went through the 1990s with this intense scrutiny on her. i think it is part of her dna. >> is she more secretive than most? >> i don't know. my hunch is she is probably a little more secretive because. past history but i generally think that most politicians are secretive. not even trying to hide anything. they just don't want to tell people things. that's my experience having worked on the inside them don't want you on the inside journalists. >> did it take a mistake of e-mails to learn mo...

Mark let's start off here with the new e-mails released by the state department. >> well and tamron when you end up looking at most of the e-mails from the state department last night, as my colleague put it last night, it almost looked like something out of "veep." there were a lot of e-mails about hillary clinton where she and her staff were going to get takeout. another one was working on the fax machine. another e-mail came to the conclusion, am i being included in this cabinet meeting? those were some of the big revelations. the associated press seized on david axelrod's e-mail to hillary...

The ku klux klan. it, of course was later rebuilt. but again, this evening up in flames again, but at this point, no word on what caused that fire. >> and this is now the seventh fire at a predominantly african-american church across the south in just two weeks. since the church massacre. a fire at a baptist church in charlotte has been declared arson. investigators still looking into the others. they say the fires don't appear to be related and there is no evidence that they are racially motivated. we turn to another developing story this morning. the first batch of hillary clinton's e-mail...

We know he acted as an intermediary in the northern ireland peace process and urged clinton to hope tony blair be elected as e.u. president. some of the lighter e-mails include clinton asking whether she should attend a cabinet meeting. she writes she heard about it over the radio but it turned out to be for lower level officials. and one exchange shows clinton apparently has issues working a fax machine. she writes quote, i thought it was supposed to be off the hook to work. joining me now is karen finney -- >> i'm laughing because i have to tell you when i read that i thought a fax machine, ...