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Open discussions with people on both sides about these red flag things. he screwed that debate up. you can't talk about it anymore. because now people are going to point to that. >> juan: i think, in fact, what i see in terms of your reaction he has triggered the right wing. he is triggered the nra. >> jesse: this is going to cost more lives than mass shootings. you are kidding me? you are going to go to people and say hey, hand it over. give it the hell to me. >> juan: you are involved in pressing fear buttons. >> jesse: let me ask you as a reporter. >> juan: that's not speculation. that's no...

Open discussions with people on both sides about these red flag things. he screwed that debate up. you can't talk about it anymore. because now people are going to point to that. >> juan: i think, in fact, what i see in terms of your reaction he has triggered the right wing. he is triggered the nra. >> jesse: this is going to cost more lives than mass shootings. you are kidding me? you are going to go to people and say hey, hand it over. give it the hell to me. >> juan: you are involved in pressing fear buttons. >> jesse: let me ask you as a reporter. >> juan: that's not speculation. that's no...

Abolishes or reformed in some way. i want to go to our audience member jeff fortny. you are a teacher who works with families living in fear. how does that connect with this abolish i.c.e. movement? >> i think there's a lot of fear, and i think that's playing in the abolish i.c.e. thing pushes people's fear buttons. on the other side of that, we have families that are here, that are working, that are sending their kids to school, that are trying to do their right thing, and they fear about if they're going to be able to pick up their kids. so i think that there needs to be some sort of delinea...

Way. i want to go to our audience member jeff fortny. you are a teacher who works with families living in fear. how does that connect with this abolish i.c.e. movement? >> i think there's a lot of fear, and i think that's playing in the abolish i.c.e. thing pushes people's fear buttons. on the other side of that, we have families that are here, that are working, that are sending their kids to school, that are trying to do their right thing, and they fear about if they're going to be able to pick up their kids. so i think that there needs to be some sort of delineation what's going on with i.c....