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Greater issue here. the wall street journal, a rupert murdoch owned paper, has an editorial today that says this should be taken seriously. >> well, this is -- this does matter. it matters that the president is lying. it matters if the president was condoning intimidation, a woman who, you know, who has a -- women who have allegations. it matters that, i mean, i know it is a -- this might be a little inside the beltway, but it does matter if michael cohen violated fec rules as a result of this. that it does matter. and they're right. as amanda said, taking the sex out of this does provide a lo...

Hunter on behalf of john edwards, you had that there. you have that here to say this is unanimous to go forward with these cases, and until they prosecute these sorts of things or go forward, it may be a toothless endeavor even though it's obvious. >> let's play what chris cuomo said on "new day" with stormy daniels' attorney. listen to this. actually, we don't have that clip right here, but we'll get that clip ready. in the exchange he left no doubt, the attorney representing stormy daniels, that not only michael cohen but the president himself must have been fully aware of this $130,000 hush...

. >> the only way that that can be true is if you so narrowly define re-election as, essentially, things that are specifically under fec rules, minutes spent doing that. but remember, let's think back to all of the swing state visits. "wall street journal," our cousins at "the wall street journal" did a great piece where they looked at the dozens of official visits to swing states that the president's made. we remember the bus tour that he took through iowa, virginia and north carolina, all swing states. the president, it's not just his official campaigning and the fundraising, but the whole c...

Well, you can call them pacs on steroids. as we all know, just as we bring the get money out campaign to congress, get a load of this. there's a word that the federal election commission has cleared the way for an even more powerful form of political giving. of money to a political auction. new fec rules will allow traditional bidding vehicles like pacs to essentially merge with the super pacs, allowing even more players into an unregulated, anonymous shadow fund-raising game that is used to fund the auctions of power in our so-called elections. what more has to happen? what more do we all hav...

Joining me now is the assistant general counsel for citizens united chris berg. good evening. where are the democrats wrong on this, in your opinion? >> i think per your intry, the premises a little bit wrong. this bill is not about shedding sunlight on the campaign finance spending. it's about silencing speakers and looking at broad classes of american people who after the citizens united decision are allowed to speak and it's about putting barriers into the speech and the exercise of their political rights. >> mr. berg, you know as well as i do that this is not a freedom of speech issue. thi...