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Was hrick gates, paul manafort was in the same shoes. he could have gotten the same deal with rick gates had gotten. what he was crucial to, what we learned if his cooperation agreement, from the information he provided to investigators, and what they asked had a lot to do with the russians. there was that meeting with the russian agent. they wanted to know more about their relationship. there was one other key thing. they were trying to get paul manafort to help them with another, a separate department of justice investigation that we know nothing about. and they have said that he lied to the...

Speculation that trump could pardon manafort. manhattan prosecutors have prepared a criminal case against manafort in case that happens. how will this work? wouldn't manafort be protected by double jeopardy laws or no? >> no. in fact, the report that has made it clear, there are separate sof rips. double jeopardy law is very narrow. you can have two crimes that are essentially identical. wire fraud and mail fraud. in one you're mailing an envelope and the other you're using the internet. that's two separate crimes. and there's no double jeopardy. so it is very narrow. no double jeopardy issue....

Double jeopardy issue. if the president decided to pardon anybody, manafort or somebody else, on the federal charges, that would not apply to the state charges. a number of different aspects, but interlinking here. >> what about any sealed indictments that mueller might have? what happens once this report is filed? >> so each of the individual u.s. attorney's offices, whether the district of columbia or the eastern district of virginia in arlington, virginia, the southern district of new york, the eastern district of new york, manhattan and brooklyn, they will proceed with those with the assis...

Russians, right? there was that meeting with the russian agent. they wanted to know more about their relationship. there was one other key thing we learned was that they were trying to get paul manafort to help them with another, a separate department of justice investigation that we know nothing about. and they have said that he lied to them. he lied to them when they started asking him questions about this other investigation. they say the special counsel's office that he was trying to protect someone. >> let's talk about michael cohen. because cnn has learned that michael cohen fed manhatta...

Running fast and thick, and i will believe it when i see it. even if he's going to do a report, i don't think that he will lard up a sentencing memo in anticipation of that. if he's got something to say in a report, he'll put it in a report. i'm not sure we're going to get a report any time terribly soon. if we do, maybe it still won't be the end. as juliette was saying, mueller has proliferated a whole series of start-up investigations through a variety of u.s. attorneys offices. it will carry on even if he himself and his group are finished. >> look at that. 11:10, david bringing it there. s...