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The governors almost to a man and woman are saying we don't have the money. they heard presentations from other organizations that said if you pull the expansion money right now you're going to lose coverage. if you do tax credits instead of subsidies which a lot of republicans want to do, you will have people lose coverage, is that acceptable? >> well, we're going to find out. the president is concerned about coverage levels. he's going to be disappointed. republicans on the hill are less concerned with coverage levels than ensuring that people have access to coverage they want if they shoes ...

And had coverage going down 51% if you got rid of the expansion of medicaid another one had a reduction of 30% if it winds up being a split cost where the state versus to pick it up. that's going to have to be what the political consequences here if you're going to cut these things. how is that playing now? >> but that means that the states have to pay and there's no way they can afford to cover