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In the area i am close to now, you are seeing where states are taking the lead and we learn from them and that is an effort by governors initially. >> frank keating? >> well, obviously if you want more subsidize and less of something tax it. we learned from president clinton we implement people had to go to work unless they are physically incapable of doing so. they had an obligation to work. you could not be dependent and put your feet up and relax. you had to get a yob and get training for a job. that is a very good policy outcome . whatever the issue might be. to let federalism work and enc...

In the area i am close to now, you are seeing where states are taking the lead and we learn from them and that is an effort by governors initially. >> frank keating? >> well, obviously if you want more subsidize and less of something tax it. we learned from president clinton we implement people had to go to work unless they are physically incapable of doing so. they had an obligation to work. you could not be dependent and put your feet up and relax. you had to get a yob and get training for a job. that is a very good policy outcome . whatever the issue might be. to let federalism work and enc...