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Federalized system of counting votes in the presidential election. if everything had been centered in washington as some legislative proposals in congress now would do it would have been easier for trump to try and subvert the election. i think we need to strengthen the federal dispersement of this authority because i think that is an important safeguard against efforts to corrupt the outcome of elections. >> his saying that he is going to be reinstated in august, do you dismiss that as trump hog wash or is that something that concerns you as it is catching fire in the ranks? >> well, i think ...

Issue. i -- i think, laws that undercut public respect for the integrity of the process are damaging. but i would say one, other thing. one of the most important barriers to donald trump trying to upend the 2020 election was the fact we have such a diverse, federalized system of counting votes in the presidential election. if everything had been centered in washington, as some legislative proposals in congress, now, would do. it would have been easier for trump to try and subvert the election. i think we need to strengthen federal -- the federal dispersement of this authority because i think t...

What do you think? >> well, look, i was a mayor during that time, as you know, and actually had to run stuff and try to keep a the 287-g pol that we had to put out an announcement that, hey, my local law enforcement officials should not be involved, should not be federalized to help with immigration. and the reason why, and i want folks to know this, it's for safety. right now we're seeing cooperation in cities all across america, between immigrant communities and law enforcement just being butchered. i sat with a 14-year-old talking about her friend that was assaulted, not wanting to call aut...

And disbelief, a thousand federal troops marched into little rock and the arkansas national guard was federalized. it was a huge television event ordering federal troops into an american city so some black kids could go to school. >> the fact that he used a thousand paratroopers to provide protection made a hell of a statement, especially in the black community. >> black people were used to the government being against them, not for them. so, the notion of troops being used for african-americans was a revolution, a revelation and a novelty. >> we were blessed by the fact that these images were...

National guard was federalized. it was a huge television event ordering federal troops into an american city so some black kids could go to school. >> the fact that he used a thousand paratroopers to provide protection made a hell of a statement, especially in the black community. >> black people were used to the government being against them, not for them. so, the notion of troops being used for african-americans was a revolution, a revelation and a novelty. >> we were blessed by the fact that these images were shown by the media because there probably were other cases before us in which ther...