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A public access person. i think the public land should be available to america and the public. >> shannon: my next question. they are upset with you about increase -- fee increases. "the fee increases you propose are a serious concern. we believe it's especially problematic for your department to propose the increases at the same time that the trump administration is recommending slashing national park service funding levels than holding a virtual fire sales of our public resources at the low market value." there's a lot to respond to. >> baloney. the greatest bargain in america is $80 for a y...

Move on to other things and let 2014 be all about obamacare? >> that's right. i mean, don't get me wrong, there will be plenty of republicans in the senate who will vote against this, who think that it's a lame deal, that it's inefficient, they don't like some of the fee increases in it, but they're not going to -- there's not going to be some giant pre-christmas filibuster, i don't think, against this budget deal. they don't want talk of budget anxieties, showdown possibilities, government shutdown in january possibilities. thai not going to go -- they're not going to go through that again. t...

Another $20 billion in cuts to the defense side of the budget. that is because of a kind of peculiarity of the way sequestration works. in 2014 the defense spending caps were going to have to come down another $20 billion. there are a lot of republicans in both houses that didn't like that. as you both mentioned, we're talking about $65 billion less in spending cuts under sequestration. so the spending caps go up that much. now, interestingly, there's another 20 or so billion above that that they're going to apply to deficit reduction. paul ryan saying there's no taxes involved, no tax increas...

We were especially confused, however, when it comes to the lack of accountability. especially at a time when the cost of attending ucla is so high. >> talk about that a little bit, you ran for student body president and college affordability was actually part of your platform. i'm a graduate of the uc system, and i'm from california, i know what's been going on there in recent years with college tuition, but a lot of our viewers may not be familiar with the tuition situation there. why is this such a big issue in recent years? >> so over the past decade, the uc has really put a burden on stude...

Hiking the fees. any traveler nos they can nickel and dime you for every thing these days. >> airlines made 52 different fee changes last year and 36 of those were direct fee increases. most only cost 5-10 dollars but they add up. they spent 6 billion on airline fees last year. if you are looking for a spring escape on the cheap. southwest airlines round trip tickets starting $98 on short routes. longer routes cost a little bit more. we are going to show you the breakdown. if you are traveling anywhere less than 500 miles less than $50 each way. there are fine prints you need to go through and...