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Targeted by the nsa -- >> you're a target too. >> they will now look at your love letters, look the your pictures. sometimes minimize your personality traits. sometimes they won't. they collect it all that an nsa analyst was able to collect it all and give it to a bunch of washington reporters. >> it's the feeding trough to which this goes. >> and, again, there's no sense of oversight being conducted on the people. >> or that exchange markedly since the revelations came to note. >> correct. the only time there's been a sense of reforms is post from the outside, or by the president, you know, s...

Who puts the best spread out at the table. you can't just reject it. it's about making a bigger tapestry here, isn't it? >> in some ways it is. you really truly can't take christ out of christmas. it's in the name. it's in the meaning of the holiday. it's in the expressions and for those people who choose to go to the commercialization, who only want to look at the certain aspects of it, they miss out. they don't get the message. as father beck said earlier, it really is about god choosing to be born in a stable which was actually a carved out like a rock, a cave, you know? and to be laid in a...

Jesus. >> he is the most visible christian leader in the world. and rightfully so. and so his messages do resonate around the world. i love them. i think he is a humble servant of god that is doing an amazing job of reminding people of what god has said and the kind of lives that we ought to live. i'm very, very proud to be able to celebrate the things that he's doing and saying. >> don't you think the message that he's preaching really is the message of christmas? he's saying that our hearts are only going to be filled by something deeper. you mentioned the manger as the feeding trough. do we...

On earth he did it perfectly. it didn't look like it at the time. it looked like a disaster. young unmarried teenage girl couldn't find a place to deliver her baby. ended up having to go to a barn. only place to lay the newborn was in the feeding trough intended for goats and animals. that wasn't a mistake. you see, god wanted to show up in the most unlikely place because he wanted to remind us that when we think he can't find us, when we think somehow that he doesn't understand just how tough life is for us, actually he understands completely. because there is in place that he can't find us. ...

Simply be cut and that should be left with charitable organizations like churches? is that what you're saying? >> i'm saying when you look at the fact that we have a $16 trillion debt. we have to cut everywhere and everything is being cut. you look at the president has proposed a trillion dollar cut in the military over the next ten years. that is being cut. everything is being cut. we have to. >> again, i go back to this point, sir. because it seems to me there is a real problem here for so many christians. because christ's life seem to have been marked by poverty. he was born in a feeding tr...