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Politician facing the higher of voters. george gascon is under fire for his radical policies that have put violent criminals above victims and their families. my next guest, a leader in the recall gascon movement. her son was brutally murdered in 2018, repeatedly stabbed, beaten and then thrown off a cliff, his body was found two days later and thanks to gascon after 4 minutes his killers will actually face life without parole. desiree joins me now. i know people say sorry for your loss, i don't know if it helps but it is a desperately sad and infuriating story but as a mother my heart does br...

Was that a conversation between don junior and dad about this very meeting. it's impossible to believe this is such a control freak he's figgfig -- figured out who that call was too. perhaps that's why a decent lawyer wouldn't want him to answer that question. >> we know the call looks suspicio suspicious. we don't know whether that call helps or hurts trump. >> i would never use hinky. if i was in mueller's office i would be fanning through my files and looking that up. i have a feeling given what you can do to technology, they know who that phone call was made to. >> let's see if we hear any...