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Mate. if it was someone who was liberal on abortion, they would say wait, romney isn't and that -- it doesn't really matter. it will be the same no matter what. frankly, i think that the whole idea that somehow being, you know, pro-abortion or pro-life or whatever is like the thing, there are plenty of women who are socially conservative, who don't favor abortion rights. >> it's beyond just the choice issue, too. we're not talking about personhood amendments, we're talking about stuff happening at the state level which is far more i think extreme if we're characterizing this as far as women's ...

Jason, talk to us a little about how fernstrom, who sounds a little wild, fits into the broader picture that we have, this broader narrative that mitt romney's team is staffed by sort of buttoned-up suit wearing data driven private sector bain employees. >> i think that he fits in the role in that he's not that way. i think that romney appreciates fernstrom sort of attack dog mode. i think that as a journalist in boston pointed out, in many ways, romney is very much in the corporate world when he was in bain, he was sort of an attack dog, you know, bottom line kind of guy. i think that's where...

Incendiary topics in mitt romney's history and fernstrom himself seems to be a sort of incendiary, fiery, maybe undisciplined kind of strategist. i want to read one piece from -- a bit from your story that stuck out. it says one incident still stands out. fernstrom had been on an overseas calling with an advisor when the call abruptly dropped. he pulled out the phone from the wall and knocked down his computer at the same time. fernstrom marched out of his office with phone in his hand like a dead limb. he went to where jillson sat and quote, threw it at my wastepaper basket. this is an explet...

Ideas. it means romney/ryan can run on principles and provide some real direction and vision for the republican party. and probably lose. now, this goes back to what we were talking about, consternation, although i believe that's more than consternation. that's just pure pessimism. and a really interesting analysis in politico yesterday, saying many observers believe romney must make the ryan selection less about specific policy arguments and more of a general statement about his own values, about his own seriousness, self-confidence and willingness to embrace political risk to solve big probl...