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>> before the election, you have made the payments today and it was because of the election, -- >> and because of trump's embarrassment. >> it doesn't matter what trump does, it was because of the election that it was an election violation. i am not a lawyer -- >> the chairman said, it does matter that if it was something other than exclusively the campaign then it is out of -- paid in campaign funds. >> my question watching that is that is that a preview then of the legal argument that they are than trying to make? >> yes and no. i think that the subpoena has switched gears on a ...

Obstruct, or whether they are going to finally realize that their own criminal exposure is facing them now. and that they are have a decision to make of whether they have got a criminal charge or whether they are going to cooperate. i have to tell, you i am not very optimistic. these, the names you just read aloud, for the most part, more extreme red arrests. and first, mark meadows has aspirations to continue to another administration and some form. so we are going to begin to see whether or not the -- are going to see what they can get from these folks, whether they cooperate or not, for tho...

Decision in this case. scott anderson senior editor at the -- has one explanation that could cause accelerated timeline is that the doj could have presented evidence that there may still be classified information in trump's hands. >> and that corcoran's testimony could help him recover. what do you make of that? >> yeah, there have been various sources that have told the media that are familiar with the investigation regarding the documents that they have no degree of confidence that they got all the jockey roads. so i think it's a safe bet that in part, the judge is being driven by evidence s...