Above water, if any? >> that, can't tell you. i'm here in seoul. the republic of korea government, the ministry of national defense, could probably provide you a better answer on that with regards to the vessel and how much has been sunk. >> so best hope against hope right now is that they are using divers to get under there because people could be in air pockets, right? that would be the best hope. >> yeah, that's our understanding. and we are -- like i said, we're standing by and we've been in touch with the on-scene commander on the scene. and we're prepared to assist as necessary. >> and i...