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There's the concern of a power vacuum if assad is taken out of power and then what role isis plays in the control. >> and that's an ideal solution. that's the one i favor, but frankly the zwreometry of the battlefield has changed. anderson, after the russian intervention the amount of energy that would be required on our part to take on both assad and isis is beyond what any president could now reasonably demand of this country. and that's a great satdness, and it's going to be a festering sore for a long time. but we're going to handle this sequentially. >> how difficult -- i mean the level o...

It is going to be a festering sore for a very long time. but i think, frankly, at best, we're going to have to handle this sequentially. park the assad problem. work on isis. and then go from there. >> how difficult -- the level of russian involvement in syria, it seems like it is even more complicated now than it was during the obama administration before russia got involved. having them on the ground and iran as well, it's much more three dimensional battlefield. >> exactly. again, i would have been right where senator mccain was earlier on your show three years ago, four years ago when ever...

Any lawyer who has studied constitutional law knows this order as applied, not facially, but as applied was unconstitutional. two judges have issued, and both of the judges were not soft touches. these were both former prosecutors. sally yates is a former prosecutor herself, who, by the way, was the lead prosecutor in the erik rue dodolrudolph, dome terrorist. they never said that in the previous 27 years of her career, festering sore. this is a woman who has the ethics, the morality, and the absolute fidelity to the constitution, and not to a bunch of people who are over there trying to pande...

Vicious and sadistic annihilation. as long as the islamic state operates as it does, as a terrorist state this was inevitable. it was only a matter of time before we went from a lone wolf who is a crazy person with a gun, we have a sophisticated multiprong attack with surveillance on site and people who know what they are doing. >> you say this is inevitable. and when i asked john miller if this is a wakeup call to america, he said that it is not because that would assume that we have been asleep. do you think it's a wake up call? >> i think it is in the sense you can't allow this festering so...

>> but this has not been a good summer for her. that doesn't mean she's not still on track to win the nomination but she had some challenges and i think the biggest one is what i consider to be a pretty lame story, the story about the e-mails, is now immeshed in if the machinery of federal investigation. so the fbi is investigating not her for something criminal, that was a bogus "new york times" story but they are investigating and investigations take their own course and there is a drip-drip-drip of leaks. what happens, there are always leaks from these investigations. this is going to go on...