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Businesses. it sounds like he managed some of michael cohen's medallions. but i do think it's likely prosecutors are using him to try to add pressure to michael cohen to make some move of his own in terms of talking about donald trump. >> paul, just given what you know about the legal system here in new york, i mean, he was accused of failure to pay more than $5 million in taxes, and grand larceny. i assume if he gets this deal, he gets a deal where he's not facing prison time and a $50,000 fi fine. what kind of a deal would he have to -- what kind of information would he have to have in order...

Senators, congressmen, they get the 75% subsidy. no one else who goes in with those salary levels in the exchanges gets the subsidy. you can say it's a stupid law. fi fine, amend the law. the house democrat cans propose changing that law. it's the law of the land. i think the house republicans are intelligent to prevent the change of it and say i'm sorry there's no reason congress should get a better break than all the other americans that are being forced into the exchanges under obama care. >> why? that's a tough one to defend on that particular issue. >> i think so. i think it's a dodge. i ...

To? if it's old boyfriends, it's fi fine, i don't mind. i trusted my wife. it led to, really there's nothing going on. i knew there was something. so i bought technology to prove otherwise, and, you know, i was right. >> and so, i'm curious, you had this hidden camera and you videotaped your wife with this man which you then watched streamlined at work. correct? >> i could have. i didn't use it to that degree, but it was set up and ready to go type thing. it was more physically chatting on the computers is what sealed it for me. >> ken, you didn't actually watch videotape of your wife having s...