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Lights, right, from your house to ohio. it was all on the up and up. and they referred to it in the accounting as field consulting but really it was just to get you to an event, right? >> absolutely. it was just to get us to an event. and on top of all of that the trump campaign, they put out a statement on yesterday. >> that's right. >> we hope that all of these salacious, gossip news sites and news organizations like the very fake news. >> yeah. >> retract all of their lies. >> that's right. abby: tell us about how yesterday played out. did you get what you ultimately wanted out of the heari...

>> $1,274.94 for field consulting. >> um-huh. >> are you familiar with that? >> we're familiar with that particular lie. we could see that you do look at fake news. we monetize our platform. there is nothing wrong with that as you as an african-american, you are not going to make us feel guilty because we're going to get out here and we are going to take advantage of these platforms just like everybody else. steve: after that exchange, some claim they lied under oath and that was the headline in a number of papers. brian: is that the case? brian: here to address that story on capitol hill are ...

By the trump campaign. >> let me ask a specific question. $1,274.94? >> we have never. >> thank you. >> been paid. steve: she was looking at something that said field consulting that figured you were consultants. that's not the case. it was, as you said a moment ago, it was travel expenses. >> absolutely. >> that's right. >> they didn't want to hear that. >> no. >> they wanted us up there to antagonize us about foolishness. >> that's right. >> and not talk about censorship. >> we never profited off that particular reimbursement. that was strictly for flight tickets only. >> that's right. abby:...

Since 2003, he and his firm have been paid $21.2 million by the rnc candidates and super pacs. this year he and his firm were paid $3.1 million. last year he and his firms were paid $72 thourk by the romney campaign to do some field consulting. i mean, this is a lot of money, a lot of connections at the top levels here for a guy that is under this kind of continual questions and criminal investigation from a party who was so concerned about voter fraud. >> yes. when they were throwing all of these rocks about voter fraud, the rocks came back to break their own glass house. the voter fraud issu...

If they were do get into the wrong hands, catastrophe in the united states. one house republican of texas that says, no funding should go to pakistan until they can prove that they did not know bin laden was there. look for more seasoned veterans of capitol hill who have a lot of intelligence, national security experience to say despite all the promise pakistan gives the united states they still need funding to secure the nukes. it will be an interesting debate though because that is here on that issue. >> interesting family analogy but makes sense. the numbers don't lie. president obama is ...